Inauguration Open Thread.

Here’s the (Harump) open thread for the Inauguration Insertion of Donald J. Trump, yech!, as President of the United States, cough! Yech! Many are not watching but the TV News will have non-stop reporting on it.

Here’s your space to comment on it and also a place to talk about the counter inauguration functions. Have at it!

518 thoughts on “Inauguration Open Thread.”

  1. Robert Reich
    5 hrs ·

    The GOP’s new health insurance bill is dividing Republicans between those who only want to repeal Obamacare and those who want to both repeal it and replace it. But the latter group is in an impossible position because the bill eliminates all the sources of funding — Obamacare’s taxes on the rich, and the mandate that healthy young people buy coverage or face a penalty. So the GOP ends up transferring money from the poorer and sicker to the healthier and wealthier, which is what they’ve tried to do for years.

    ‘The math is not there!’: Robert Reich schools ex-Trump adviser over GOP’s ‘absurd’ Obamacare replacement

    Former U.S. Secretary of Labor Robert Reich on Tuesday ripped the GOP House healthcare replacement plan, arguing Republican’s current attempt to push through…

  2. Hospitals: “We cannot support The American Health Care Act in its current form”

    The group took issue with House Republicans’ Obamacare repeal bill.

    The American Hospital Association has already said no to House Republicans’ health care bill.

    “We ask Congress to protect our patients, and find ways to maintain coverage for as many Americans as possible,” Richard Pollack, president of the association, wrote in a letter to House Republicans. “We look forward to continuing to work with the Congress and the Administration on [Affordable Care Act] reform, but we cannot support The American Health Care Act in its current form.”

    The American Hospital Association — along with other members of the industry, like the American Medical Association — is widely credited with playing a key role in the passage of the Affordable Care Act (also known as the ACA or Obamacare). That the group is withholding its support suggests Republicans could face a well-organized and well-funded opposition within the health care industry to kill the bill or at least change its provisions.

    The American Hospital Association cites two major problems: First, the legislation has not been scored by the Congressional Budget Office — so there’s no official estimate for how many people will lose (or gain) health insurance as a result of the bill. Second, the bill cuts back on programs, particularly the Medicaid expansion and tax credits for health insurance, that make health care affordable and accessible to millions of people.

  3. Still Love Marcy Wheeler…

    This week on Intercepted, Trump accused Obama of tapping his phones, causing FBI director James Comey to lose his shit. Obama officials are denying it up and down and Trump’s surrogates are trying to figure out if their boss knows something they don’t. It sounds crazy, but is there anything to Trump’s tweets? We talk with Intercept investigative reporter Matthew Cole and muckraking journalist Marcy Wheeler of emptywheel. Never count WikiLeaks out — the group just published a massive cache of CIA hacking secrets. The Intercept’s Sam Biddle and Josh Begley discuss what the revelations can teach us about our “smart” TVs and appliances and the security of chat apps like Signal and WhatsApp. As ICE raids intensify and deportations accelerate, independent journalist Aura Bogado confronts the opening stages of Trump’s assault on undocumented immigrants. Legendary punk band Anti-Flag performs for Intercepted from a garage in Pittsburgh. Plus, Donald Trump “stars” in “Goodfellas,” where he’s chased by the mob and the FBI. Can he get out of Mar-a-Lago alive? Tune in to find out!

  4. toniD says:
    March 8, 2017 at 9:40 am
    Hospitals: “We cannot support The American Health Care Act in its current form”
    The Obama administration had the benefit of the records produced for the health care reform work done by Hillary Clinton and Ira Magaziner and others as the thrust of the Task Force to Reform Health Care during the earliest portion of Bill Clinton’s first four years as President of the United States. Needless to say, this period was rife with GOP obstructionism and attacks fueled by the nascent The Arkansas Project. The foundational structure of The Arkansas Project grew from that point and exists today as a very organized and well funded smear organization.

    For anyone doubting the extensive international research performed by the Task Force to Reform Health Care, see Michael Moore’s documentary Sicko.

    And for anyone who dislikes Hillary and Bill Clinton, I invite you to examine the smear campaigns executed by The Arkansas Project and to vow an oath that those smear campaigns had no influence on your decision to hate the Clintons.

    The Obama administration also had the benefit of its own investigative effort tasked to reform health care. In the end, the Obama administration chose to use several of the ideas produced by the GOP’s own think tank, The Heritage Foundation, in 1993. I, and others, guess that the ideas were either quasi-good ideas…or that the Obama administration hoped that the GOP’s opposition to health care reform would be dimmed by adoption of most of the plan created by the GOP’s own think tank.

    Some people, including me, like to believe that the Obama administration viewed the current Affordable Health Care Act as a political camel’s nose under the tent en route to a Single Payer system. The theory goes like this: Something en route to Single Payer is better than nothing en route to Single Payer. After American citizenry had had a taste of a quasi-Federal health care system, it would be less reticent to accept a full-blown, Federal, Single Payer system in the future.

    So now we are here, in the Trump regime, with a GOP majority in the House and a slim GOP majority in the Senate. Nobody, including most GOP elected officials (but excluding the batshit crazy Freedom Caucus), wants to suffer the political blowback from repealing the ACA without offering something better to the citizenry.

    There is nothing better, aside from Single Payer. The problem was studied at length by Hillary Clinton and Ira Magaziner et al, and was again studied by the Obama administration. Neither of the study groups pulled their conclusions out of their asses. Both study groups studied the national health care problem AND the political difficulties that would be encountered while trying to write and pass legislation that would improve the national health care mess that we were in (and continue to be in, in a slightly altered form).

    That fact that the GOP is encountering political blowback to “Repeal and Replace” seems to validate the “political camel’s nose under the tent” theory. Will we see Single Payer under a GOP dominated regime? It is very unlikely.

    However, it is also unlikely that the GOP regime will be able to shit on the health care benefits of the citizenry (and the hospitals and other entities in the national health care network) without paying a price at future polling booths.

    None of American politics is A versus B. Our political system is rife with intrigue. Motivations enter the health care question from many different tangents.

    The Purity Police don’t have a fucking clue of even a fraction of the intricacies involved in the sausage-making process.

    I am not defending our messy and absurd political system that may or may not eventually find its way to a Single Payer health care system.

    But I ain’t as stupid as I look. The camel’s nose under the tent is better than no camel at all. The Trump administration and the GOP is trying to kill the camel and, so far, it doesn’t look like the American citizenry and the health care industry is gonna let the camel die without a fight today…and probably a fight that will extend into coming elections.

  5. Republicans poised to pass two laws making it almost impossible to sue corporations

    The Republican Congress is moving fast to make corporations even more powerful than people if two bills are passed.

    According to The Consumerist, the “Fairness in Class Action Litigation Act” (H.R. 985)– proposed by the same Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Virginia) who tried to gut House ethics rules in January — would shut down any and all class action lawsuits if an attorney suing a corporation on behalf of multiple plaintiffs is in any way related to one of the plaintiffs, whether through family or work.

    Goodlatte’s bill would also require all plaintiffs suffer “the same type and scope of injury as the named class representative or representatives,” which would, by default, bar many consumers from joining class action suits in the future if passed.

    In addition to Rep. Goodlatte’s proposal, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) has proposed the “Lawsuit Abuse Reduction Act” (H.R. 720) which orders judges to “sanction” lawyers who are estimated to have filed frivolous lawsuits. The legislation would effectively intimidate lawyers into backing away from plaintiffs who want to file a lawsuit against a powerful entity more likely to prevail in court, like a multinational corporation. Rep. Smith’s bill describes the sanction process as a combination of fees and other penalties lawyers must pay:

    T“[]he sanction shall consist of an order to pay to the party or parties the amount of the reasonable expenses incurred as a direct result of the violation, including reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs,” the bill reads. “The court may also impose additional appropriate sanctions, such as striking the pleadings, dismissing the suit, or other directives of a non-monetary nature, or, if warranted for effective deterrence, an order directing payment of a penalty into the court.”

    The Fairness in Class Action Litigation Act and the Lawsuit Abuse Reduction Act are currently awaiting action in the House Judiciary Committee. Given that Republicans have a comfortable majority in the House, the bills are likely to pass the chamber without much opposition.


    It Takes Something Seismic to Get This Group Protesting
    The Mennonites are out in the street.

    Give the current administration credit. It’s managed to energize American politics in the most unlikely places. And as I know from personal experience, and from a campaign a long time ago in an election far, far away, one of the hardest places to energize secular politics is in among the Mennonite communities in Pennsylvania. That takes a master’s hand, as we can see from this report from McClatchy, courtesy of The Wichita Eagle…

  7. Horseshit…

    Nothing better? Purity Police? No clue how the sausage is made? Go fuck yourself with your condescending bullshit… you are not the smartest person in the room, and you never were…

    A Public Option would have been “better” by several orders of magnitude you fucking dummy… and congressman and Senators who had far more experience in federal government than your one-half term Senator and who had been pushing for National Healthcare for their entire careers said the exact same thing…

    blow it out of your ass…

  8. How Do You Even Begin to Try to Spin This…?

    That infantile super secret pinkey-swear demand and assertion that some bullshit ’90s propaganda campaign controls thoughts and opinions on Hillary might be the stupidest statement I have ever read from anyone on the subject…

    What happened to the Clintons is simple… The Internet happened… Bill’s & Hillary’s Legacy and past political positions could not withstand forensic examination… The mistake Clinton apologists are making is wrongfully assuming that people approved of what the Clintons were doing while they were doing it… the fact is, they simply didn’t know… and Bill is one of the greatest political salesmen and bullshit artists of all time… The more accessible the facts become on the actual content and results of the Clintons’ Policies, past and present, the more disdain for them it stirs up in Progressive thinkers… Many Centrist Liberals are just at a complete loss to understand why, and have run the gamut from Racist-Sexist-Homophobe memes to FBI-Russia-MSM bias to try to explain it…. or obfuscate it… but the answers lie within their own political convictions… or lack of them… In the end the policies of Corporatist 3rd Way Neoliberal douchebags are repugnant, at their core, to Progressives and Leftists… no matter how Socially Liberal those politicians and policies claim to be… the sooner the Dems accept that, the sooner they can start to pull out of this death spiral they’ve followed Clinton and Obama into…

  9. More ‘Purity’ From Actual Progressives…

    Sanders, Schatz, Schakowsky Introduce Bill to Prevent Corporate Tax Dodging
    Thursday, March 9, 2017

    WASHINGTON, March 9 – Citing new evidence that many profitable corporations evade paying any U.S. income taxes, Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) Thursday introduced a bill to eliminate tax breaks that encourage corporations to shift jobs and profits offshore. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) introduced a companion bill in the House.

    In addition to closing loopholes, the Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act would tax the $2.4 trillion that American corporations currently hold offshore at the full corporate tax rate of 35 percent.

    The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released a report Thursday showing that 100 large, profitable corporations paid zero or less in federal income taxes at least once in the last eight years. Eighteen corporations, including General Electric, International Paper, and PG&E, received tax refunds from the IRS on their combined profits from 2008 to 2015.

    The study also found that 48 corporations paid an effective tax rate of less than 10 percent over that period. On average, large, profitable corporations in the United States paid an effective federal income tax rate of 21.2 percent over the eight-year period, slightly over half than the statutory 35 percent tax rate.

    “Here’s the simple truth. You can’t be an American company only when it benefits you. You also have to be an American company when it comes to paying your fair share of taxes,” Sanders said. “Instead of giving a $550 billion tax break to corporate tax dodgers as President Trump has proposed, our legislation will raise at least $1 trillion in new revenue over the next decade.”

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  10. Tim Canova shared Wikileaks’s live video.
    1 hr ·

    Part II: The recent CIA Wikileaks raise concerns about threats to privacy and civil liberties by intelligence agencies, foreign and domestic. In his prophetic Farewell Address, President Eisenhower warned about such dangers arising from the confluence of military, industrial, and intelligence powers.

  11. Tim Canova shared U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders’s live video.
    28 mins ·

    We are thrilled to see U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders and the great filmmaker Josh Fox discussing the many challenges we face, from addressing climate change to banning fracking and converting our economy to alternative renewable energy sources.

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